David Kestenbaum: When I was at NPR, one of the things I helped cover was nuclear weapons policy around the world. And when it came to North Korea, I've talked to people, various experts, and they would say something like, we have a decade. It's going to take them a while to get there.

Ira Glass: And then how long ago was that?

David Kestenbaum: About a decade ago.

Ira Glass: So right on time.

David Kestenbaum: We're exactly on schedule.

Ira Glass: Right. We said that 10 years ago it would take 10 years. Here we are.

David Kestenbaum: Yeah.

Ira Glass: Yeah.

David Kestenbaum: And I just thought, how did we let this happen? How did we get here?

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David Kestenbaum: Oh, so it's footage from underwater.

Jeffrey Lewis: Yeah.

David Kestenbaum: Wow.

Jeffrey Lewis: It's this crazy underwater.

David Kestenbaum: That's impressive.

Jeffrey Lewis: It looks cool, right?

David Kestenbaum: Yeah, yeah. It looks cool. OK. So here's the other one.

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Jeffrey Lewis: Yeah. It's the same, right?

David Kestenbaum: I mean, it's exactly the same.

Jeffrey Lewis: Oh, yeah. And they do this all the time.

David Kestenbaum: Do you think they actually launched a missile from a submarine that day?

Jeffrey Lewis: I think they may have popped up a missile from a barge, but I don't think it flew. I don't think it worked. I don't think it involved a submarine.

David Kestenbaum: So basically, none of what they were saying happened happened?

Jeffrey Lewis: Right.

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Jeffrey Lewis: This one can hit the United States with a nuclear weapon. People keep saying Alaska, but that's people making themselves feel better. It demonstrated the range to go to Alaska. That doesn't mean that that is its maximum range. We've been modeling it, and it looks a lot better than that.

David Kestenbaum: Meaning it can go further?

Jeffrey Lewis: Yeah, it probably can hit New York.

David Kestenbaum: It probably can hit New York?

Jeffrey Lewis: Yeah. This last one went seven times higher than the ISS.

David Kestenbaum: Seven times higher than the International Space Station?

Jeffrey Lewis: Yeah, seven times higher.

David Kestenbaum: So this was significantly further than that other one?

Jeffrey Lewis: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is a hell of a missile.

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David Blaine: And they're getting bad.

Dentist: Yes.

David Blaine: Because I feel hot and cold much stronger now.

Dentist: Well, that's because glass is not a normal food that you're supposed to eat.

Dentist: So have you been eating this on your right side of your mouth more than your left?

David Blaine: Yeah, only on the right side. That's so weird.

Dentist: You've worn your teeth down on the right much worse than the left.

David Blaine: Wow.

Dentist: Much worse.

David Blaine: Yeah, it started shifting to the right because the left was hurting so much.

Dentist: Well, your right is much worse than your left. This is totally worn away. All the enamel's gone from the tooth and his nerve is almost exposed.

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David Blaine: He didn't believe me--

Dentist: I didn't believe him, either.

David Blaine: --in the beginning.

Dentist: I really didn't. I didn't believe him. I've never seen anyone do it, and I thought it was a h-- I thought there was some sort of trick to it, but he's eating glass.

Ira Glass: So is eating glass a thing that you know that you only can do a certain number of times in your life because you'll gradually grind--

David Blaine: Like I was saying to the dentist, every time I drink or eat everything hot and cold, it's a nightmare.

Ira Glass: So it's a trick like, I get to do this a certain number of times left in my life, so I've got to choose my spots.

David Blaine: No. No. No, no. I still do it whenever I want.

Ira Glass: You still do it? Really?

David Blaine: Yeah. I wouldn't really want to do with that glass because it's so thick. No, but I've done it with way thicker glasses than that. But my teeth are so bad now that I prefer wineglasses, like delicate ones.

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Dan: They send us their idea or a script, and we'll take it and tell them how much it's going to cost and what it's going to take, how long it'll take, who's available for it. And we make it for them.

Rhiannon: Yeah. They're very much involved in the casting process, where we hold their hand pretty much the whole way through it.

Dan: Some of them are crazy because they're just so normal. Yeah, the flyswatter.

Rhiannon: Oh, yes. The flyswatter.

Dan: He wanted to watch a girl swatting flies.

Rhiannon: She remains fully clothed throughout the entire video. She's in the kitchen. And she's getting frustrated because there's flies everywhere.

Jon Ronson: So now she's looking around for a flyswatter.

Rhiannon: She is, yes. That's the rest of the video is just swatting flies.

Jon Ronson: Did you ask the client what it was about flyswatting?

Dan: Nope.

Rhiannon: No. Sometimes you have to wonder. Maybe he watched his mom swat flies? Ooh. Probably so.

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Dan: He has had this stamp collection for 40 years. I don't even know-- we didn't ask how much it was worth or anything. We just accepted it and burned it.

Jon Ronson: Burned it?

Dan: Yeah.

Rhiannon: Yeah. He wanted the girls--

Dan: He wanted it destroyed. He wanted the girls to have fun destroying it, and they did. And he loves it. He said he watches it every day.

Jon Ronson: Did you ask him why-- why?

Dan: No

Rhiannon: No.

Dan: I mean, he explained a lot about how it was important to him to see these girls kind of humiliate him for having a stamp collection.

Jon Ronson: Can we watch a bit of it?

Rhiannon: Sure.
