Ed Hacker: Then I had to get tweets out, so--

Sean Cole: You are the most active octogenarian on Twitter that I know about.

Ed Hacker: Well, I try to send out about six or seven tweets.

Sean Cole: What did you send this morning?

Ed Hacker: Oh, I said about three or four.

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Ed Hacker: I feel that, yes, I could talk to you about Pat, because you're willing to talk to her about it.

Sean Cole: To you about it, yeah.

Ed Hacker: And it makes a big difference to me.

Sean Cole: It does?

Ed Hacker: Of course.

Sean Cole: I'm so glad to hear that.

Ed Hacker: Because you lost the same person. Even if it's somewhat similar if somebody else has lost someone else, you know, these groups in which everyone has lost a spouse, and their memories are different. You know you never met the other person that died. You really don't care.

Ed Hacker: You care about your loss. You know, be honest.

Sean Cole: Are you on the deck now?

Ed Hacker: I am.

Sean Cole: Having a smoke?

Ed Hacker: I am.

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Ed Hacker: Well, I still keep track of the time.

Sean Cole: You do?

Ed Hacker: Yeah, and I also have an app on my computer, all three of them, which is set to tell me how many days since Pat died.

Sean Cole: You do?

Ed Hacker: I do.

Sean Cole: Oh, I didn't know that.

Ed Hacker: So this way, I'm going there right now, to see what my apps are. What do they call it now? Got too much junk here.

Ed Hacker: Oh yes, Count Down. You can set it for anything, you know. I mean-- well, it's been 22 months and three days since she's died. Or if you want, one year, 10 months, and three days. Or if you want, 95-- 96 weeks.

Sean Cole: And what do you feel like, looking at that?

Ed Hacker: Don't have any particular feeling. It's just that it's amazing that it's almost two years. It's like saying I remember.

Sean Cole: Yeah, I feel like I need something like that. I just feel like I don't think about her enough.

Ed Hacker: Well, that you'll have to explain. Why should you think more?

Sean Cole: I don't know. It's just like--

Ed Hacker: Is it guilt or something?

Sean Cole: It's not guilt, no.

Ed Hacker: You want to honor her more by thinking about her?

Sean Cole: Yeah, I want to honor her more by thinking about her, and it also feels like there's something going on in me all the time that I'm not acknowledging, that kind of leaks out in these other ways. And I just miss her. And so it's like I need to put that missing somewhere.

Ed Hacker: Well, you have a photograph of Pat?

Sean Cole: Yeah, I have one up on the wall in my office.

Ed Hacker: OK, take another one. And every day, move it from one spot to another in your apartment.

Sean Cole: That's a really good idea. Did you just think of that?

Ed Hacker: Yes. That makes it sort of a ritual.

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Woman 2: Is there snow?

Woman 1: Yeah, there's snow.

Woman 2: Oh.

Woman 1: Where have you been?

Woman 2: Oh, wait a minute.

Woman 1: Open your eyes and look outside. There's snow.

Woman 2: Nope, not on 60th. It's as dry as a bone. Where are you?

Woman 1: I'm on 66th.

Woman 2: No snow on 60th. I swear it.

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